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RE: [OT] dynamic resolution web sites
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 08 Nov '05

08 Nov '05

I didn't mean test pages on your site. I meant, do you know of any other website pages where a person could test their browser SVG functionality. Or ones that had SVG images on them. -----Original Message----- From: Behalf Of Jason Dewayne Clinton On Tuesday 08 November 2005 10:22 am, Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO wrote: > Had to go here: http://www.adobe.com/svg/viewer/install/svgtest.html > to activate the plug-in and accept the license. No big surprise. So > their test SVG graphic works, but then I go to your site and still > get no image, but this time I don't even get the scrollbar, just an > image placeholder. Do you have any other test pages that I can go > to? Not yet. I am planning on implementing an ECMAScript that probes for IE and replaces the <object> with an <embed>. It may be awhile before I get to that but I'll keep you posted.

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RE: [OT] dynamic resolution web sites
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 08 Nov '05

08 Nov '05

Had to go here: http://www.adobe.com/svg/viewer/install/svgtest.html to activate the plug-in and accept the license. No big surprise. So their test SVG graphic works, but then I go to your site and still get no image, but this time I don't even get the scrollbar, just an image placeholder. Do you have any other test pages that I can go to? Netscape 4.7 AFAIK was the last Netscape browser that was approved for loading on Gov't PCs. We have it here at the USDA and I've seen it at IRS, KC City Gov't and Missouri Unemployment offices. It is actually no longer supported by the Helpdesk, but some transaction sites that government personell deal with, must at least be viewable by Netscape 4.7. Kind of the lowest common denominator, probably because it still works on all the old low end PCs and it came pre-installed for a long while. -----Original Message----- From: kclug-bounces(a)kclug.org [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason Dewayne Clinton Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 9:41 AM To: kclug(a)kclug.org Subject: Re: [OT] dynamic resolution web sites On Tuesday 08 November 2005 08:33 am, Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO wrote: > On my work PC, I can't view this image on IE > 6.0.2800.1106xpsp2.050301-1526 after installing Adobe's SVG viewer. > I do see that there is a box with a disabled scrollbar and I see the > text. Hum. That's very interesting. I just checked it on IE6 6.0.3xxx and it seems to be working; could you check the Adobe[1] web site and see if those work for you? IE will usually generate an empty box with a disabled scroll bar when it encounters an object tag that it doesn't have a plugin for. If it works at Adobe's site then I'll need to tweak my code. [1] http://www.adobe.com/svg/examples > I have Firefox 1.07 also, which doesn't have a plug-in AFAIK. I > don't want to update this browser until it comes out of Beta. > Mozilla 1.7.8 shows text only. > K-Meleon 0.9 shows text only. Yea, Firefox 1.5 or greater. > Netscape 4.7 shows nothing Thanks for testing this one but NS4 is dead. They have <0.1% of the market left. > Netscape 8.0.4 shows text only. No plug-in. > Mozilla 1.7.12 shows text only. Yea, Firefox 1.5 or greater. > Amaya 9.2.2 shows text only. It is supposed to be able to show SVG, > but it doesn't like that image on your site. Unfortunately, Amaya has lots of problems. If they had more developers they could probably come up with a nice test suite browser. > Opera 8.5 Success!! This is the only browser that actually shows > the image for me. And it scales!! I didn't have a previous version > of Opera installed to test, so I don't know how new this feature is. Cool! Thanks for testing all of these!

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Nut or LanSafe3 with Compaq UPS (Deltec PRA1500)
by Jon Moss 08 Nov '05

08 Nov '05

I recently replaced the batteries in my Compaq UPS and got a serial cable working to hook up to my Compaq Proliant DL380. I tried using the LanSafe3 software from HP, but it's not "old enough" so then I moved to NUT that came with FC2. Has anyone used NUT much? Or does anyone have a similar UPS? Thanks, Jon Moss

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Program suggestion
by Arthur Pemberton 08 Nov '05

08 Nov '05

Can anyone suggest a small application CLI or GUI that just seems to be "missing" from Linux? Not necessarily an application that exists in Windows, but not in Linux, but a program that would make some part of your Linux experience better. I am just dying to make a cool Linux app/project, but I am lacking ideas. For interface, I am considering console, GTK+ or Qt. For programming language, I am considering Python or C++; I appreciate your ideas. -- As a boy I jumped through Windows, as a man I play with Penguins.

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Content filtering applicance
by Denise Owen 07 Nov '05

07 Nov '05

I am looking for an application to filter the content for a small school I have been working with. It looks like the best solution would be the appliance/software combination. I thought maybe someone might have some recommendations. I know that the budget is very limited. The school only has 25 to 30 computers at the present time and probably won't ever have more than 40 to 50. Thanks Denise

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RE: Somewhat OT: Spyware or Cancerous Software?
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 07 Nov '05

07 Nov '05

Are we now able to read AND write safely to NTFS? If so, is the same true for the NTFS that Windows 2000 and XP use, NTFS 5.0? This is what keeps me from having all my Winders installs in total NTFS format. I always leave at least one small partition as FAT32 for transfer. One BIG problem I have is that all my MP3s and movie files are in NTFS drives and too big to copy all at once over to a ext3 or other type of partition. I think I saw a ext FS plug-in for Windows. Anybody ever try that? ******************************************* If the automobile had followed the same development cycle as the computer, a Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon, and explode once a year, killing everyone inside. - Robert X. Cringely -----Original Message----- From:On Behalf Of Monty J. Harder Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 4:44 PM Subject: Re: Somewhat OT: Spyware or Cancerous Software? I'm with Hans Reiser on this. The Registry per se exists because MS filesystems do a horrible job of storing small snippets of information. For example, the command echo "hello" >test.txt under most Unices will generally take either 512, 1024 bytes of disk space for the inode, and a few more for the directory entry. But in MS FAT filesystems, that same file is going to use up as much as 32 (or in a particularly perverse situation, 64) Kb. It's not quite so horrible under NTFS, but FAT was the norm when the Registry was invented.

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RE: Content filtering applicance
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 07 Nov '05

07 Nov '05

By "content filtering", I'm assuming you mean web content. Easiest thing I've found is IPCop, www.ipcop.org, for firewall, Squid proxy (content filtering), basic server add-ons available for all kinds of stuff, but I'd recommend seperating that stuff to another server. If you use Squid, you will need a little more ram than a basic IPCop box. I'd say any where from 64 or 128 MB on up. This and the processor required is dependent on the number of clients. For the 20-30 clients you could try a Pentium I or II, say up to a 500MHz and start with 128 or 256 MB. Also you will need a hard drive from 2GB on up to 10GB. If you had several older boxes that are exactly alike, I'd recycle them into a IPCop box and a cold spare. You could probably have the spare up in 10-30 minutes if you had to do updates or duplicate some network changes. In reality, you could use ANY Linux distro and just add a second NIC, Squid proxy and NAT, but why make extra work for yourself? There are free appliance -like Linux distros, but this is one I'm familiar with and have used for over 2 years. Brian Kelsay ******************************************* If the automobile had followed the same development cycle as the computer, a Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon, and explode once a year, killing everyone inside. - Robert X. Cringely -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Denise Owen Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 6:06 AM To: kclug(a)kclug.org Subject: Content filtering applicance I am looking for an application to filter the content for a small school I have been working with. It looks like the best solution would be the appliance/software combination. I thought maybe someone might have some recommendations. I know that the budget is very limited. The school only has 25 to 30 computers at the present time and probably won't ever have more than 40 to 50. Thanks Denise

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RE: Content filtering applicance
by Daniel Siemens 07 Nov '05

07 Nov '05

Check out astaro.com. If they are to expensive look at Ipcop.org and than athe addons section for a copplus. ________________________________ From: kclug-bounces(a)kclug.org [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Denise Owen Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 6:06 AM To: kclug(a)kclug.org Subject: Content filtering applicance I am looking for an application to filter the content for a small school I have been working with. It looks like the best solution would be the appliance/software combination. I thought maybe someone might have some recommendations. I know that the budget is very limited. The school only has 25 to 30 computers at the present time and probably won't ever have more than 40 to 50. Thanks Denise

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Somewhat OT: Spyware or Cancerous Software?
by Jack 06 Nov '05

06 Nov '05

Was just repairing a clients Windows machine yesterday. The spyware infection reminded me more of a cancer than anything else. If you don't get every last bit you'll get reinfected. The worst part is this malicious code puts itself in the registry, and with the ability to hide registry entries and to hide files from the file managers, cleaning may not be possible unless you know how to unhide this stuff. While the same can be done with Linux by replacing certain system tools, there is no registry to deal with. This is itself a great boost to cleaning an infected Linux system. There is no need to scour a registry looking for cryptic keys, that have no relationship to the infecting program(s). This is a great asset, since this particular system had been infected since July! Hence even were he to have kept backups of the registry, it is unlikely he'd still have a pre-infection copy of the registry. While it is a nice idea to have a central database where one can configure everything on the system, it was an extremely bad idea to make it so cryptic and accessible for abuse. Anyway that's my thought for the day. Avoid the cancer that Windows has become, use Linux. P.S. This one spyware program made over 200 entries in the registry, had over 1600 copies of bits of itself hidden in various locations (each of which were enough to spawn a new infection), and was running about 40 copies of itself in memory (thus maxing out the CPU whenever the infected user logged in). Brian JD

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OpenOffice.org Bloatware?
by Leo Mauler 03 Nov '05

03 Nov '05

Saw this on /. http://slashdot.org/articles/05/10/27/1425232.shtml?tid=185 After spending an entire ITEC exposition extolling the virtues of OOo, this crops up to claim that OOo has memory usage issues and very slow startup times. I'll admit that I haven't used M$ Office all that much, but I don't seem to notice a significant time period between running OOo and starting to write a document or create a spreadsheet. Has anyone else who uses both noticed the kind of lag on OOo that the article author describes? The Slashdot replies also go into the point that most people have M$ Office already, legally or illegally, so we can't talk "free" without running up against all the illegal copies out there which were also, technically, "free". One Slashdot reply says that Longhorn will make the "free" case for OOo by preventing people from running illegal copies of M$ software. Does anyone know about this in more detail? __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com

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