Don't know if this will help, but my brother (a retired EE with AT&T) thinks it's the adaptor. Probably a failed capacitor. So make sure they replace the darn adaptor.
-----Original Message----- From: Tom Bruno
My girlfriend today pointed out a time like 5-6 weeks ago during a bible study i was using my laptop with it on my lap, and i was getting shocked through my blue jeans. I had forgotten about this until now. That seems a little wierd to me aswell. We are pretty certian it's the laptop.
On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 13:43 -0600, Jonathan Hutchins wrote:
I hate to say it, given that we all love to express our
opinions on these
matters, but you're talking to the wrong people.
You REALLY, REALLY need to at least talk with a real,
honest-to-goodnes,
listed-in-the-yellow-pages Product Liability Lawyer.
At the minimum, you deserve to have a working laptop, a
fixed TV, and a new
cable. You've been injured, and you can probably argue
quite successfully
for compensation for that. Shock and trauma are a little
bit more difficult
to prove, but getting knocked unconcious is pretty clearly
not something you
should expect from a consumer product that's being used correctly.
If you don't talk to a lawyer, what's the worst that could
happen? Well, I
suppose Dell could say "it was the TV, not the laptop", and
you'd be out a
computer and a TV. Maybe you're cool with that. I don't
think I would be.
If you do work with a lawyer, he should be willing to do
this on a contingency
basis - his fees come out of any potential settlement. You
may still loose
the laptop and the TV - they become evidence. Your expense
in replacing
them, though, becomes part of your claim.
We are not talking about suing someone because the coffee
you shouldn't have
poured in your lap was too hot. We're talking about
serious injury and
damage from normal use of ordinary consumer appliances.
Think about this: What if you'd been alone? What if that
fire had caught on
something else, and kept burning, while you were knocked
out on the floor?
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Tom,
Any new news on this? What did the lawyer say?
Thanks,
JO
On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 08:30:40 -0600, Brian Densmore [email protected] wrote:
Don't know if this will help, but my brother (a retired EE with AT&T) thinks it's the adaptor. Probably a failed capacitor. So make sure they replace the darn adaptor.
-----Original Message----- From: Tom Bruno
My girlfriend today pointed out a time like 5-6 weeks ago during a bible study i was using my laptop with it on my lap, and i was getting shocked through my blue jeans. I had forgotten about this until now. That seems a little wierd to me aswell. We are pretty certian it's the laptop.
On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 13:43 -0600, Jonathan Hutchins wrote:
I hate to say it, given that we all love to express our
opinions on these
matters, but you're talking to the wrong people.
You REALLY, REALLY need to at least talk with a real,
honest-to-goodnes,
listed-in-the-yellow-pages Product Liability Lawyer.
At the minimum, you deserve to have a working laptop, a
fixed TV, and a new
cable. You've been injured, and you can probably argue
quite successfully
for compensation for that. Shock and trauma are a little
bit more difficult
to prove, but getting knocked unconcious is pretty clearly
not something you
should expect from a consumer product that's being used correctly.
If you don't talk to a lawyer, what's the worst that could
happen? Well, I
suppose Dell could say "it was the TV, not the laptop", and
you'd be out a
computer and a TV. Maybe you're cool with that. I don't
think I would be.
If you do work with a lawyer, he should be willing to do
this on a contingency
basis - his fees come out of any potential settlement. You
may still loose
the laptop and the TV - they become evidence. Your expense
in replacing
them, though, becomes part of your claim.
We are not talking about suing someone because the coffee
you shouldn't have
poured in your lap was too hot. We're talking about
serious injury and
damage from normal use of ordinary consumer appliances.
Think about this: What if you'd been alone? What if that
fire had caught on
something else, and kept burning, while you were knocked
out on the floor?
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Just going to let everyone know how this one ended.
Best buy replaced my TV due to the 2 year, total care plan i purchased with the TV
I found that there was a problem, both with the Laptop, and house wireing.
My laptop was sent to dell, and 1 month later, i got 2 stories about why I haddn't recieved it back.
I had emailed dell to ask them where my laptop was, they said it had been repaired and shipped back to me and gave me the tracking number. When I looked up the tracking number, i found that the address it was sent to was in fact wrong, and the laptop went to Austin TX, where someone I don't even know signed for it.
I contacted dell about what I had found. the first dell rep. told me I would have to arrange pickup/delivery with the person whom it was mis-shipped too, However he would not give me a full name, phone number, or address. After many more hours on the phone, I finally got someone to transfer me to the mis-shipped items department, they took the info and said they would take care of it. another week goes by no laptop.
I call, and one-on-one chat with a dell tech online at the same time. After many hours of research of both on the phone and chat people came back, The chat person came up with a story about how Dell's saftey inspection unit caught my laptop and that it would not be returned to me and a replacement matching my exact system would be sent. Around the same time, the man on the phone said he would call me back in about 2 hours when he can find out what's actually going on.
2 hours later, he says that the system was mis-shipped and that they usually don't physically return a mis-shipped item instead the replace it with a new item. Because my model was no longer in production, the replacement would be a new system equal or better than my previous lost item.
I told him to cancel what the guy from the one-on-one chat did, becuase i trust him more, after all he did call me back, and was offering a upgrade.
I've now recieved my system, and it is mighty nice:
Old Laptop Specs: Dell Inspiron 8500 Pentium4-M 2.4ghz 512mb DDR233 ram 80 gig hard drive 802.11g wireless DVD Readonly/CD-RW 15.4" Widescreen WUXGA screen Nvidia Geforce Ti4200 Go video card Battery life while compiling gentoo 45 minutes
New Laptop(replacement laptop specs): Dell Inspiron 8600 Pentium-M 2.0ghz 1 gig DDR333 ram 80 gig hard drive DVD+-RW/CD-RW 15.4" Widescreen WUXGA Nvidia Geforce 5200 64mb Battery life while compiling gentoo 2.8 hours NO Wireless, Dell has been notified that the replacement is missing wireless the old one had, and they have agreed to send me the wireless card.
This new pentium-m 2.0ghz, seems to outperform my 3.0ghz pentum4 northwood w/hyperthreading, and battery life is amazing.
Basically if you go to dells site, and hit customize and hit all the highest options available for the 8600, you'll have my system. They even gave me ALL the high cost software items. like XP pro, Office 2003 pro, etc...
I'm pretty happy with the resolution. even though dell had 2 stories as to where my laptop ended up.
Brian Densmore wrote:
Don't know if this will help, but my brother (a retired EE with AT&T) thinks it's the adaptor. Probably a failed capacitor. So make sure they replace the darn adaptor.
-----Original Message----- From: Tom Bruno
My girlfriend today pointed out a time like 5-6 weeks ago during a bible study i was using my laptop with it on my lap, and i was getting shocked through my blue jeans. I had forgotten about this until now. That seems a little wierd to me aswell. We are pretty certian it's the laptop.
On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 13:43 -0600, Jonathan Hutchins wrote:
I hate to say it, given that we all love to express our
opinions on these
matters, but you're talking to the wrong people.
You REALLY, REALLY need to at least talk with a real,
honest-to-goodnes,
listed-in-the-yellow-pages Product Liability Lawyer.
At the minimum, you deserve to have a working laptop, a
fixed TV, and a new
cable. You've been injured, and you can probably argue
quite successfully
for compensation for that. Shock and trauma are a little
bit more difficult
to prove, but getting knocked unconcious is pretty clearly
not something you
should expect from a consumer product that's being used correctly.
If you don't talk to a lawyer, what's the worst that could
happen? Well, I
suppose Dell could say "it was the TV, not the laptop", and
you'd be out a
computer and a TV. Maybe you're cool with that. I don't
think I would be.
If you do work with a lawyer, he should be willing to do
this on a contingency
basis - his fees come out of any potential settlement. You
may still loose
the laptop and the TV - they become evidence. Your expense
in replacing
them, though, becomes part of your claim.
We are not talking about suing someone because the coffee
you shouldn't have
poured in your lap was too hot. We're talking about
serious injury and
damage from normal use of ordinary consumer appliances.
Think about this: What if you'd been alone? What if that
fire had caught on
something else, and kept burning, while you were knocked
out on the floor?
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, Tom Bruno wrote:
I've now recieved my system, and it is mighty nice:
Good to hear it worked out!
So . . . I need a new laptop. Would you recommend Dell?
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