If you can open up an ftp connection but not download anything, then it has all the earmarks for passive ftp versus active ftp issues. Since it is only on these two machines, then I would bet those two machines are blocking certain ports, or the ftp client is running in a different default mode on those two machines. Try connecting to an ftp site that one of the other 10 PCs can download from and try doing both passive and active ftp and see if one works and one doesn't.
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Pratt
Well checked all the said links and what is weird is I can get in to the ftp via commandline but cant get anything downloaded these effect any FTP sites at all on the two PCs I can download via http. I have seen a lot of strange things but This is the strangest. Any other ideas? I have even search for possible spyware but have fownd nothing.