On 8/16/08 8:59 AM, "Adrian Griffis" [email protected] wrote:
On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 12:15 AM, Luke -Jr [email protected] wrote:
Exactly, this is a group of Linux users. That does not exclude other topics from discussion, provided those discussing them are Linux users.
I must say, Luke, that I am troubled by your response to efforts to contain the off topic hcatter on this list, particularly since you are often a party to egging on the off-topic flamewars. Like you I want to avoid the strictest form of moderation, where no off-topic discussion is allowed. But it sounds like you would have us live with almost no guidelines at all, and I fear that the flamewars you've helped prepetuate convince me that we must excercise some control on this list, even if it is largely self control.
Let me suggest to all on the list that perhaps it is time to start talking about some principles we might use to guide our own behavior on the list. First, I'd say that any reasonable system of ethics should govern interactions between different parties is such a way that each party is offer some protected from the excesses of the other parties. I think we've seen examples of excess in recent discussions on this list. While we might have varying opinions about how much departure from the list's topics is permissible, surely most of us can agree that unlimited departures are not wwhat we want to see.
Second, I want to suggest a specific limit that we might all consider following in our participation in this list. While some off-topic discussion could be acceptable, perhaps each of us could try to insure that the amount of off-topic list bandwidth we use does not exceed the amount of on-topic list bandwidth we use.
Any thoughts on this?
We went through this just a few months ago, when we reenacted the 30 Years War through the list. The consensus was that the list works as it is.
Free Software advocates have a tendency to be as passionate about freedom in all parts of their lives. Therefore, it is neither unusual or unduly alarming to see those opinions expressed here. Frankly, I find it refreshing, even when I am on the receiving end.
Nearly every keyboard has a delete key installed, and unsubscribing is not difficult to do if the heat is too high in the kitchen.
Matthew Copple [email protected]