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Next Meeting in Room 310
by Michael Morgan 25 Jan '08

25 Jan '08

To All, KCLUG will meet in room 310 instead of room 312 at the Kansas City Public Library two times in 2008. The next meeting scheduled for, Wednesday, February 2nd, will be in room 310, and so will the meeting on Tuesday April 15th, 2008 (see below). Room 310 is the glassed in room near the stair case. All other meetings during 2008 are scheduled for room 312. 2/6/2008 Wed 5:30 PM - 9:00 PM KC Linux Users Group Install Fest Central Library Meeting Room 310 Confirmed 4/15/2008 Tue 5:30 PM - 9:00 PM KC Linux Users Group Demo Day Central Library Meeting Room 310 Confirmed Michael Mogan librarian(a)kclug.org

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JOBOP: Network Engineer/Windows Systems Administrator
by Campbell, Jeremy 24 Jan '08

24 Jan '08

Immediate need for a Network Engineer with good Windows Systems Administration experience. Involves heavy use of F/OSS management tools and systems (Cacti, Nagios/Zenoss, Snort, Syslog-NG, pfSense, MySQL, Apache) Follow link for details: http://www.careerbuilder.com/JobSeeker/Jobs/JobDetails.aspx?job_did=J8D6 TT72R3D4R4CQ6XW Thanks, Jeremy Campbell Network Engineer Avila University * IT Services 816-501-3639

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Yanking the Window Shade
by Luke -Jr 24 Jan '08

24 Jan '08

http://blog.lobby4linux.com/index.php?/archives/423-Yanking-the-Window-Shad…

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Re: Remote access partition and install Linux. With a Near, Zero skilled operator at the remote site.
by Earle Beason 24 Jan '08

24 Jan '08

I'll help if I am able, I have a local test subject, um if you replace "local" with upstairs, and "test subject," with wife. She can turn on a computer, follow basic instructions and is total cool with a linux platform

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[[email protected]: Re: Remote access partition and install Linux. With a Near Zero skilled operator at the remote site.]
by Ed Allen 23 Jan '08

23 Jan '08

----- Forwarded message from "Shawn C. Powell" <shawncp(a)kcnet.com> ----- > From: "Shawn C. Powell" <shawncp(a)kcnet.com> > To: kclug(a)kclug.org > Subject: Re: Remote access partition and install Linux. With a Near Zero > skilled operator at the remote site. > Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:35:09 -0600 > > It seems like the hurdle is bootstrapping, in as simple a manner as possible, > some kind of connectivity so you can proceed with the work. > > What about setting up a VPN server on your end and let them connect to you? > PoPToP on your end for Windows --- I'm not sure what kind of built-in/easy > VPN clients Knoppix provides. > ----- End forwarded message ----- CSR is (Customer Support Representative). We set up logins on an otherwise little used web server and then put this into a script named 'access' on the client machines... #!/bin/bash # this script lets DSI access this computer via ssh # ========================================================= # ssh -R 2500:localhost:22 rescue@newweb # # then ssh to newweb (internal name for csr.LOGIN-MACHINE.com) and... # # /usr/bin/ssh -C -X -p2500 rescue@localhost 2>/dev/null # # will present a login prompt from the customer machine behind a linksys router # # 'rescue@' is an account pre-created on client machine # for just this script. # # rescue01 through rescue10 are newweb logins which all share # login dir and /etc/passwd user id number. # ========================================================= localhost=127.0.0.1 EXPECT=$(type -p expect|sed 's/.* //') ============== generate key ==================== # Generate new key files... /bin/rm -fr /home/rescue/.ssh mkdir /home/rescue/.ssh chmod 700 /home/rescue/.ssh touch /home/rescue/.ssh/id_dsa $EXPECT <<KEY_GEN set timeout -1 match_max 100000 spawn ssh-keygen -f /home/rescue/.ssh/id_dsa -t dsa expect "Overwrite (y/n)? " send "yes\r" expect "empty for no passphrase): " send -- "\r" expect "Enter same passphrase again: " send -- "\r" expect eof KEY_GEN ============== end generate key ================ # tell the user what's going on echo '' echo '' echo '' echo '' echo '' echo '' echo '' echo '' echo '' echo 'This program will exit when you strike the "Control-C" key.' echo '' echo '' echo 'If a command prompt returns before you strike "Control-C" please notify' echo 'the CSR working with you.' echo '' echo '' echo '' echo '' set=$(stty -g) # reset intr setting if ^c typed trap "stty $set ; echo ' done'; exit 0" 2 3 # Signal 2 is ^C stty intr ^c # Create a passwordless login for us $EXPECT 2>/dev/null <<PUT_KEY set timeout -1 match_max 100000 spawn /bin/sh -c "cat .ssh/id_dsa.pub | ssh rescue01(a)csr.LOGIN-MACHINE.com 'cat >>.ssh/authorized_keys'" expect "continue connecting (yes/no)? " send "yes\r" expect "ssword: " send -- "LOGIN_PASSWORD\r" expect eof PUT_KEY # Use new server at csr.LOGIN-MACHINE.com lst="$(ssh rescue01(a)csr.LOGIN-MACHINE.com 'netstat -an |grep 127.0.0.1:91..'|sort)" n='' [ -z "$n" -a $(echo "$lst"|grep -c 9110) -eq 0 ] && n=01 [ -z "$n" -a $(echo "$lst"|grep -c 9111) -eq 0 ] && n=02 [ -z "$n" -a $(echo "$lst"|grep -c 9112) -eq 0 ] && n=03 [ -z "$n" -a $(echo "$lst"|grep -c 9113) -eq 0 ] && n=04 [ -z "$n" -a $(echo "$lst"|grep -c 9114) -eq 0 ] && n=05 [ -z "$n" -a $(echo "$lst"|grep -c 9115) -eq 0 ] && n=06 [ -z "$n" -a $(echo "$lst"|grep -c 9116) -eq 0 ] && n=07 [ -z "$n" -a $(echo "$lst"|grep -c 9117) -eq 0 ] && n=08 [ -z "$n" -a $(echo "$lst"|grep -c 9118) -eq 0 ] && n=09 [ -z "$n" -a $(echo "$lst"|grep -c 9119) -eq 0 ] && n=10 port=$(( 9109 + 10#$n )) /bin/echo -n connected to... rescue${n}(a)csr.LOGIN-MACHINE.com port $port'...' ssh -X -C -t -R ${port}:${localhost}:22 rescue${n}(a)csr.LOGIN-MACHINE.com \ 'sleep 28800;exit 2>/dev/null' stty $set # reset intr if timed out exit 0 fi ============================= end access script ================ This logs in to our server, uploads the client public key, looks for open port (01 through 10), and then types which was chosen to client screen so I can know which port to ssh to. Rereading the comments alerts me they are out of date. Of course you should change "LOGIN_PASSWORD\r" to whatever you use followed by \r (expect for <ENTER> key). This does not, as I am typing, include generating the id_dsa.pub but... I just put that part in from another script. I include -X and Compression so running a GUI is possible even across slow links. Sometimes we start... vncviewer -bgr233 -noraiseonbeep -nocursorshape -quality 0 \ -encodings "copyrect tight hextile zlib corre rre raw" \ -compresslevel 9 localhost:0 To 'peek over the shoulder' of our clients. I don't advise that unless you are on the phone with them at that moment because they freak when mouse moves and screen gets typed to without them. Diverting messages from expect so your novice users will be less intimidated I leave for the readers because I have spent too much time on this already.

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Remote access partition and install Linux. With a Near Zero skilled operator at the remote site.
by Oren Beck 23 Jan '08

23 Jan '08

The reasons for this situation are several at more than one location. The overview is to remotely install Linux on computers owned by non tool users, zero skills presumed of them. What I am seeking is several methods for making the process just plain work. Initial customer is my mother in Berkeley, and her social groups may join in. The minimal cold start scene will be a Knoppix or Damn small tested computer and net connection. The defined factors are: DSL or cable modem set up as DHCP. Hardware approx 2000 or newer. Working OS of XP or installed Knoppix or both.in most cases. Very Few sites with no OS. Internal HD swaps are a non starter as most of these folks are non tool using mundanes. The rest of the story is they almost all are politically or socially desiring to use Linux.by choice! With a few skeptics that "want to be shown"-more about the net than Linux as they still use TYPEWRITERS! And they often have little to no computer skills to unlearn. Short of my doing some major frequent flier miles tripping,KCLUG may be their salvation. "Someone is going to do it- why not us?" -- Oren Beck 816.729.3645

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Cisco 3750 Switch
by Kelly McLaughlin 23 Jan '08

23 Jan '08

I know we have some great minds in this group. I have a question for a network guru. When creating VLANs in a Cisco 3750 switch, can a single interface port belong to more than one VLAN ?? Thanks in advance for any responses :) . Kelly McLaughlin Tech Support Mokan Dial Inc. Louisburg, Ks. 913-837-2219 Ext. 16 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.9/1237 - Release Date: 1/22/2008 11:04 AM

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Re: Quick GUI frontend development for command line tools?
by Leo Mauler 22 Jan '08

22 Jan '08

--- "Monty J. Harder" <mjharder(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jan 20, 2008 8:25 AM, Leo Mauler > <webgiant(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Interesting, I hadn't thought of a tool which > > created the command line text for you to > > cut-and-paste into a window, but it is a good > > idea. I suppose it is roughly what I had in > > mind in the first place, as all I envisioned > > was a GUI which stepped in, made selecting > > command line program options easier, and then > > ran the complete command line command as the > > GUI exited itself. > > There's nothing about what you just said that > requires a GUI. ChUI works > well, too. (Isn't that right, Hal?) > > The program could be written to run in a > character-mode environment, so that it would > run equally well in an xterm. Maybe even > better, if it were mouse-aware. An additional > feature that could be really helpful is to save > the command in a small script in the user's > home directory, whence it could easily be > re-used. Personally I just want something which prevents the need to look up the command line options every time I want to try something different. That would suffice for mencoder and transcode. However, the GUI was to be for my friend with his interest in Astrolog. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping

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Quick GUI frontend development for command line tools?
by Leo Mauler 20 Jan '08

20 Jan '08

There are a few command line applications for which I would like to have a GUI, or for which I've found a GUI I'm just not happy with. I use mencoder and transcode a bit but I'm not happy with the GUI frontends I've found for those applications. I also have a friend who is interested in the Astrolog astrology application but who is very unhappy with the command line interface, a potential Linux convert if a GUI can be discovered. KAstrolog has been out of development for so long I can't seem to compile the thing. I haven't written any code in ten years so I'm looking for something to create GUI Frontends without too much programming experience. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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Let's start the count down
by James Sissel 17 Jan '08

17 Jan '08

Move over Global Warming! The next scare ... Y2K38. We all better start building our bunkers now. ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem

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