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Out-of-band OS installation
by Gerald Combs 20 Dec '04

20 Dec '04

I would like to build software packages for a variety of Linux distributions on the same computer. One way to accomplish this might be to have a directory hierarchy like the following: /dist /fecoracore1 /fecoracore2 /fecoracore3 /redhat80 /redhat90 /suse90 /suse91 where "redhat80" contained an entire Red Hat 8.0 distribution. It would then be a simple matter to chroot into one of the directories, update SVN, and start building. Assuming that I didn't want a separate partition for each distribution, how would I go about installing them? One way would be to install into a staging partition, then tar/rsync/pax/cpio'ing it into the preferred "dist" directory. I'd rather not have to bring the system down each time I install a target OS, however. Is there a standard method for doing an install similar to Solaris' "Live Update" for the different Linux distributions? This would be pretty straightforward under Gentoo, since its installer program is a bash prompt. Is such a thing possible with Red Hat, Fedora, or SuSE?

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I need some help with debian install disc's
by Tom Bruno 17 Dec '04

17 Dec '04

I want to get the debian dvd verion (because the only media i have is 1 dvd+r). However this is all i see in the directory that debian says to go to: [ ] MD5SUMS <http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/dvd/rc2/i386/MD5SUMS> 23-Nov-2004 21:23 1k [ ] MD5SUMS.sign <http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/dvd/rc2/i386/MD5SUMS.sign> 02-Dec-2004 23:18 1k [DIR] jigdotemplates/ <http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/dvd/rc2/i386/jigdotemplates/> 23-Nov-2004 21:23 - [ ] sarge-i386-1.jigdo <http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/dvd/rc2/i386/sarge-i386-1.jig…> 23-Nov-2004 21:23 197k [ ] sarge-i386-2.jigdo <http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/dvd/rc2/i386/sarge-i386-2.jig…> 23-Nov-2004 21:23 235k doesn't really look like dvd images to me, what am i suppose to do with .jigdo files?

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Startup niggles (Mdk10.1/KDE)
by Jonathan Hutchins 17 Dec '04

17 Dec '04

Two little things are bugging me: I took my SMB mounts out of automount and put them in /etc/fstab, and they've been mounting just fine until recently. Some update of samba or something means they no-longer mount at start-up, I have to do a "mount -a" to get them. fstab entries are: //mercury/iso /mercury/iso smbfs credentials=/etc/samba/auth.mercury.apollo,fmask=777,dmask=777 0 0 In KDE, I had knotes running as an applet in the system tray, but I accidentally quit it and now I can't get it back. I can get an application button that launches kontact in notes mode, but not the knotes hot button. (MDK10.1, KDE3.2.3.mdk)

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RE: Solar PC's
by Brian Densmore 17 Dec '04

17 Dec '04

Only consumes 10-50 Watts of power? Not exactly high end. But not bad for a no moving parts PC and the prices are pretty good too. Now there is a pc that would be a perfect candidate for hooking up to a solar panel ... oh wait that's why they call them solarpcs. Only one problem, they don't appear to be a one source solution. You have to find your own solar panel. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Hutchins [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 1:24 PM > To: kclug(a)kclug.org > Subject: Solar PC's > > > We should have known: http://www.solarpc.com/ > > Everything from handheld to beowolf cluster.

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Solar PC's
by Jonathan Hutchins 17 Dec '04

17 Dec '04

We should have known: http://www.solarpc.com/ Everything from handheld to beowolf cluster.

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Startup niggles
by Jonathan Hutchins 17 Dec '04

17 Dec '04

Oh, and my printing via CUPS to a printer on the NT server via Samba is broken. Of course, no sooner do I post that than I get a major update from Mandrake, including a bunch of KDE stuff... We'll see.

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RE: Ticket System [OT]
by Brian Densmore 17 Dec '04

17 Dec '04

> -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Hutchins > > Patric, you give some details on things like how you want > buttons to respond, > but no overview on what you're tracking. > > You say you have 400 clients and are tracking "system > problems" and "customer > complaints". > > What service are you providing? Are you supporting a > software product? Are > you the help desk for a corporation, handling all support for diverse > departments? > > ... > > What do you hope to get OUT of the tracking system? Do you > ... I'm not sure why what his service is, is relevant to choosing a help ticket tracking system. We know from his email he doesn't want one geared only for hardware. So this would tend to lean toward a more generalized system requirement. The things he didn't make clear were the types of features he wants in such a system. Such as should the ticket system allow clients to log in and post tickets, or will all tickets be created from the support desk? Will clients be able to look up the status and history of their help tickets? What types of information needs to be tracked? Reporting? Summarizations? Searchability? A simple solution that just tracks and assigns help tickets that doesn't need reporting or any fancy stuff would hardly be worth paying big bucks for when a simple freeware version should do all that is needed. But if a Ticket system needs to have all the bells and whistles, then it might be time to consider shelling out some bucks. Personally I can't see paying for a help ticket system. Like Jonathon says, a quick and dirty MySQL db based system should be all anyone needs, and functionality can always be added as needed. $0.02, Brian Densmore

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Ticket System [OT]
by Patrick M 17 Dec '04

17 Dec '04

Way back in 2002 someone asked about a Ticket system. I am trying to evaluate some for my use. It will be for system problems, and customer complaints. We have 400 clients that interact with us almost entirely via the phone. I have created a short list version 1 of worthy possible candidates. Most likely candidates are at the top Any opinions? Does anyone locally use one? I am mostly going to be using it internally with my agents passing data from a link on the computerized phone system? So I would like to pass the login information. The agents won't be solving problems, but I would like a template of questions rather than just free flow typing the problem. Its not really asset based. We know our clients, but a pull down menu of 400 clients won't work *Request Tracker- (GPL-8.45/10--15.07) By: Best Practical *OTRS (GPL-8.74/10--7.49) *dotProject (BSD-8.38/10--6.16) whole suite of stuff good for teams and projects too *BugIn (BSD-7.9/10--2.1) *phpSupport (Freeware-7.89/10--1.58) *PHP Trouble Ticket (free trial-8.18/10--4.98) They don't mention commercial use *PHP Ticket .071 (GPL-8.36/10--2.03) Last updated in 2002 *IMT (Proprietary-8.02/10--.41) Costs 85 euros) Looks clean and easy *BlueTail (GPL-not rated--1.39) Not maintained? -Hot Open Tickets (too basic?) -Track+ -- Costs and may be confusing ---New ones I found Not sure what to think yet (there ratings are good, but more designed for computer maintance) *Issue tracker (GPL-8.19/10--2.53) *IRM-- (GPL-8.29/10--5.72)Information Resource Manager -- more asset based --- I.e. select a computer (client account) and we'll issue a ticket

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linux on USB pen drive
by Christopher Kanaan 17 Dec '04

17 Dec '04

I've been messing around with the slax linux distro on a USB pen drive. Here are the instructions to get it to work, you need at least a 256MB USB pen drive. 0) format your USB pen drive (I used a FAT32 fs, I *think* it may work with others, but I have not tested) 1) grab the Slax linux ISO and burn a bootable cd [ http://slax.linux-live.org ] 2) boot linux from the Slax CD and insert your USB pen drive 3) open a terminal 4) "cd /boot" 5) "./create_bootdisk.sh . /dev/sda1 /dev/sda SLAX" (feel free to replace /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda if your USB pen drive is located somewhere else) 6) change the boot order in your bios settings to have USB device come before your harddrive 7) remove cd, keep USB pen drive plugged in, reboot, enjoy As far as I can tell, Slax is a very clean and orderly distro with all the init scripts and packages in good order. You can find all the packages that are included at http://slax.linux-live.org/installed_packages.txt Has anyone else had any experience using any linux distro's from a USB pen drive? Anyone seen any distro's that you can put on a USB pen drive that work on the PowerPC architecture? -Chris

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RE: knoppix question
by lerninlinux＠comcast.net 17 Dec '04

17 Dec '04

Ended up downloading a few distro's/ toys. Does turn out hard drive is bad, rma time. As my last MS dos boot disk had gone bad (last made in Jan 99) I ended up using both lnx-bbc and Freedos. Trying to get away from Microsoft as much as possible, but those old single disc boot floppy are handy for all the dead but with warranty drives I have bought over the years. Thanks > > -----Original Message----- > > From: D. Joe > > > > On Mon, Dec 13, 2004 at 10:42:38AM -0600, Brian Densmore wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: D. Joe > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 13, 2004 at 08:48:20AM -0600, Brian Densmore wrote: > > > > > I've booted Knoppix on my laptop which only has 96MB RAM. > > > > > I didn't touch any keys to do this. Now to be fair there is > > > > > a swap partition on the drive and it may have seen this and > > > > > used it. In fact the creators would be foolish not to look > > > > > for and use it. > > > > > > > > How foolish it is depends on what you use the disk for. > > > > > > Yes, it is all relative, but based on the designed use/audience > > > for Knoppix (aka, GUI desktop, Linux newbies, Windows users), > > > it would be most desirable to boot using as much power and with > > > as little interaction as possible. Hence I made my comment > > [. . . ] > > > > >From the knoppix.org main page (English version): > > > > "KNOPPIX can be used as a Linux demo, educational CD, rescue > > system, or adapted and used as a platform for commercial > > software product demos. It is not necessary to install anything > > on a hard disk." > > > > So, I guess it depends on how one reads that list--as a set of > > design goals in order of decreasing importance to the designer, > > or as a simple enumeration of the kinds of uses one might > > anticipate. > I am not contesting the usefulness for Knoppix, but they do state > Linux demo and educational CD *before* rescue system. Any Linux distro > can be used as a rescue system, so stating that as a goal is redundant. > > > > > I suspect you've conflated the design goals of the disk with the > > uses to which you put it. > Perhaps, but we differ in our interpretations. Yours is perfectly > valid and I consider mine so also. Opinions are after all opinions. > > > > > > > as I said before Knoppix isn't the ideal distro for > > > troubleshooting broken systems. There are much better choices > > > for such tasks. > > > > How many different live CDs have you used to fix broken systems, > I have no need to fix broken systems. I have not had a broken system > since switching to Linux 7 years ago (or more). > [That is not to say that I haven't trashed my system by doing stupid > experiments, but I have not had a system break. In these times tomsrtbt > was all I needed. Or a new install of an upgraded version. I have yet > to lose a single character of data from a Linux system. I have > trashed: programs, libraries , rpm databases, and gentoo configurations. > None of which, I suspect, could be fixed neatly by any tool.] > > > > > How suited KNOPPIX is depends on the specific task at hand: > True. I was merely stating that *if I were to want to fix a > broken system* I wouldn't want to wait for X to boot, for KDE to > launch, etc. I am, I guess of the old school that way. If you > need to fix something, do it from the CLI. It's faster and you > most likely will have more control. But then I don't do much > in the way of fixing broken/borked Windows. I find it saves me > having to digest massive quantities of Mylanta. > > ;') > > > IMHO, > Brian Densmore > _______________________________________________ > Kclug mailing list > Kclug(a)kclug.org > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug

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