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Novell Announcment
by Jared Jennings 03 Nov '06

03 Nov '06

Did anyone see this? " Today, Microsoft and Novell announced an historic new initiative. Important primarily because it means a lot to the communities we serve. Most notably, our customers. (See full press release). Let me begin by quickly outlining what we just announced. Microsoft and Novell, starting today, have agreed to build and market solutions so that Novell's technology works on Microsoft and vice versa. Specifically, customers will now be able to run virtualized SUSE Linux Enterprise on Windows or Windows on SUSE Linux Enterprise. This landmark agreement also calls for both Microsoft and Novell to provide patent coverage to each others' customers for our respective products. Why is that important? It's important because you shouldn't have to spend a lot of time worrying about legal matters around which operating system to choose. You also shouldn't have to worry about barriers such as intellectual property agreements, who owns which patent portfolio, and indemnification. None of those issues move your business forward. Now many of those barriers have been removed. I am also proud that earlier today Novell and Microsoft demonstrated, by our words and actions, that we can work together for the mutual benefit of our customers. Steve Ballmer, Microsoft's CEO, was very passionate and genuine in his support for this agreement. He spoke about how it will help our customers leverage both the Microsoft Windows platform as well as our SUSE Linux Enterprise platform. He mentioned how it will give customers like you choice and flexibility in building their technology environment. Choice and flexibility, something our customers often complain are in short supply. We're determined to change that. I'd like to build on what Steve said, and today I had the opportunity to make some of these points in person to the assembled press, analysts and industry experts. This agreement between us and Microsoft is a key cornerstone to our overall Novell promise to deliver the open enterprise to you, our customers. One where we can leverage a mixed environment- with open source and open standards based software- on your behalf. It's an agreement that will accelerate Novell's stated goal of helping you reduce cost, manage complexity and mitigate risk. I titled this a landmark announcement, and I truly believe it is. Transformational in its scope and important to us and our customers on a number of levels. You may wonder how this changes our relationship with Microsoft. It's no secret we've competed with them in the past. And we still will. However, it's also important for us all to remind ourselves that all organizations, particularly in our industry, need to adapt and change. Further, for whatever differences we've had with Microsoft over the years, we actually share a number of the same values. A strong belief in building customer solutions, and an unwavering belief in the power of technology and innovation. And now, with this announcement, the ability for you to deploy the applications you want on the operating system of your choice for a total solution. All in a way that best fits your business needs. This is the beginning of a new and exciting chapter for Novell. We know you want technology that features interoperability, choice, flexibility, and sustainability. We know you like to see your vendors working together on YOUR behalf. In fact, that is what this Microsoft/Novell agreement is all about. Working together to do a better job for you. I'm truly excited about this transformational announcement. The payoff will be better results where it counts most. On helping you grow and innovate, and in turn delivering on your promise to the communities you serve. Best regards, Ron Hovsepian CEO, Novell " -- Jared L Jennings, CNE, CLE Data Technique, Inc. 620.235.1000

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Asking your thoughts on wireless connection problem.
by RtX 03 Nov '06

03 Nov '06

I have a nice new Acer Laptop. Please don't flame, it was a great deal. I'm dual-booting the machine, Windows for a few online games, Linux (Kubuntu 6.10 64-bit) for everything else. I have a working USB Wireless Adapter based on the rt73 (RaLink) chip. While testing some other distro possibilities, I have had this rt73 adapter working using ndiswrapper and 32-bit Linux. For those who may not know, Kubuntu 6.10 Etch is a KDE desktop, has a modular kernel version 2.6.17 and is Debian based. I have searched the internet for quite some time now trying different things to fix this problem to no avail. So, I'm putting it out to you all for assistance in getting over this little hump. A walk through: Plug in the rt73. Output from /var/log/messages. Nov 1 20:37:05 Acer5040 kernel: [ 104.448248] usb 3-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3 Nov 1 20:37:06 Acer5040 kernel: [ 104.568800] usb 3-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Nov 1 20:37:06 Acer5040 kernel: [ 104.703490] Loading module: rt73usb - CVS (N/A) by http://rt2x00.s erialmonkey.com. Nov 1 20:37:06 Acer5040 kernel: [ 104.805723] usbcore: registered new driver rt73usb All seems good. Now I run kdesu wlassistant from konsole to monitor stdout. kbuildsycoca running... Loaded application options. DHCP Client: dhclient All executables found. iwconfig_status: /sbin/iwconfig ==>stderr: lo no wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. sit0 no wireless extensions. Wireless interface(s): wmaster0, wlan0 Permissions checked. ifconfig_status: /sbin/ifconfig wlan0 ifup: /sbin/ifconfig wlan0 up scan: /sbin/iwlist wlan0 scan Networks found: 2 Checking for active connection. Trying to get gateway address... ...from /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.leases Gateway address: 192.168.0.1 All seems good as I now have 2 wireless networks found with 5-star quality, one of which is mine!?! My wireless is a simple open 64-bit WEP on channel 7. After setting the settings (creating a profile) for my network, and clicking connect this is the output: ACTION: CONNECT. kill_dhcp: /sbin/dhclient -r wlan0 ==>stderr: There is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.pid with pid 5171 killed old client process, removed PID file Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.4 Copyright 2004-2006 Internet Systems Consortium. All rights reserved. For info, please vi sit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/ wmaster0: unknown hardware address type 801 wmaster0: unknown hardware address type 801 Listening on LPF/wlan0/00:14:78:79:22:f0 Sending on LPF/wlan0/00:14:78:79:22:f0 Sending on Socket/fallback DHCPRELEASE on wlan0 to 192.168.0.1 port 67 ifup: /sbin/ifconfig wlan0 up iwconfig_set: /sbin/iwconfig wlan0 mode managed channel 2.442 G key open XXXXXXXXXX essid Unes ==>stderr: Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) : SET failed on device wlan0 ; Device or resource busy. iwconfig_ap: /sbin/iwconfig wlan0 ap 00:13:46:16:9C:2C ifconfig_dhcp: /sbin/dhclient -q wlan0 ==>stderr: There is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.pid with pid 5798864 kill_dhcp: /sbin/dhclient -r wlan0 ==>stderr: There is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.pid with pid 5798864 Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.4 Copyright 2004-2006 Internet Systems Consortium. All rights reserved. For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/ wmaster0 : unknown hardware address type 801 wmaster0: unknown hardware address type 801 Listening on LPF/wlan0/00:14:78:79:22:f0 Sending on LPF/wlan0/00:14:78:79:22:f0 Sending on Socket/fallback DHCPRELEASE on wlan0 to 192.168.0.1 port 67 CONNECTION FAILED. Checking for active connection. Trying to get gateway address... ...from /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.leases Gateway address: 192.168.0.1 Everything seems good until dhclient -q wlan0. Watching the light activity on the adapter, I feel that the rt73 is sending logon data and passing but then hangs when running dhclient and trying to aquire an IP. And then this line: ==>stderr: There is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.pid with pid 5798864 What's wrong with dhclient? I would rule out driver but it scans fine, seems to try and talk with the router. I would rule out dhclient but seems to work fine with eth0 both auto and from the command line. Also, noone else seems to have this problem - lol. I've Googled so many "buzz phrases" trying to solve this problem and the results are very few. What are your thoughts? -- RtX... Ty Unes - Overland Park, Ks riverty(a)gmail.com

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Re: KCLUG subdivisions
by lerninlinux＠comcast.net 02 Nov '06

02 Nov '06

> > especially with ILUG (independence) and WLUG (westport) already in > > existence... lets see who-all uses the Combined Greater KC Geek Calendar > > resource at > Wait, there's an ILUG? I've lived in Indep. for 5 years, and Lee's Summit > for a very long time before that. I never heard of it before. Huh. > > Jon. I thought Ilug was defunct? There website disappeared long time ago, just about when my schedule would have allowed me to attend.

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Open Helpdesk level one position
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 02 Nov '06

02 Nov '06

If anyone is interested in a Helpdesk level one position, I know a place that is looking to hire someone by the 1st of December. I don't know the specifics, but some people that are higher up were let go and there is some other shaking up going on. It is a very good company with a strong core business. They've been in KC for around 80 years. Let me know if you are interested and I'll send you the contact info. Brian

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RE: KCLUG subdivisions
by Jared Jennings 02 Nov '06

02 Nov '06

Can I get on it? On Thu, 2006-11-02 at 20:01 +0000, "Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO" wrote: > You are missing the KCLUG meeting on the 3rd Tues. of each month. > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: On Behalf Of David Nicol > > >especially with ILUG (independence) and WLUG (westport) > >already in existence... lets see who-all uses the Combined > >Greater KC Geek Calendar resource at > >http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=fiq2ks06f43b4c11sg0fer > >fen4%40group.calendar.google.com > >... nobody. > _______________________________________________ > Kclug mailing list > Kclug(a)kclug.org > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug > -- Jared L Jennings, CNE, CLE Data Technique, Inc. 620.235.1000

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RE: KCLUG subdivisions
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 02 Nov '06

02 Nov '06

You are missing the KCLUG meeting on the 3rd Tues. of each month. >-----Original Message----- >From: On Behalf Of David Nicol >especially with ILUG (independence) and WLUG (westport) >already in existence... lets see who-all uses the Combined >Greater KC Geek Calendar resource at >http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=fiq2ks06f43b4c11sg0fer >fen4%40group.calendar.google.com >... nobody.

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RE: SUSE Linux
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 02 Nov '06

02 Nov '06

I did some data entry temp work for Wheatbelt many years ago, like maybe 1996 or 1997. Those guys are pretty cool. Small, tight little business up by KCI airport. Back in my AS400 and data entry days when my ten-key was super fast. They put me in there with some gals and I wowed em. And I could alphabetize records like a mad-man. Brian >-----Original Message----- >From: On Behalf Of Steve Nash >Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 9:25 AM > >Our organization is currently running a legacy software >package written in Cobol on an SCO Unix Server. We have >selected a replacement ERP software (Open Systems Accounting >Software) and will be running this on the SUSE Linux >Enterprise 10 platform, which is supported by OSAS. The >migration of data from the legacy package to the OSAS package >will be handled internally. > >Our desire is to source a company or possibly a qualified >individual who can install and support the SUSE OS while working >with our OSAS dealer in making sure all aspects of the >installation of the OSAS on SUSE come together smoothly. > >If you can provide a qualified resource, please contact me by >phone or email, listed below. > >Steven L. Nash >Controller >Wheatbelt, Inc. >11721 NW Plaza Circle >Kansas City, MO 64153 >Ph. 816.243.8222 >Fx. 816.243.8236 >steven(a)wheatbeltinc.com >

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for language wonks: algol 60 GCC front-end available
by David Nicol 02 Nov '06

02 Nov '06

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Petr Machata <pmachata(a)gmail.com> Date: Nov 1, 2006 7:07 PM Subject: gcc algol 60 milestone 2 To: gcc(a)gcc.gnu.org Hi list! For those interested, GCC Algol 60 project, the byproduct of GCC Frontend Howto diploma thesis, still lives, and its second milestone is available: http://projects.almad.net/gcc-algol/wiki/Milestones Thanks, PM -- The Country Of The Blind, by H.G. Wells http://cronos.advenge.com/pc/Wells/p528.html

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SUSE Linux
by Steve Nash 02 Nov '06

02 Nov '06

Our organization is currently running a legacy software package written in Cobol on an SCO Unix Server. We have selected a replacement ERP software (Open Systems Accounting Software) and will be running this on the SUSE Linux Enterprise 10 platform, which is supported by OSAS. The migration of data from the legacy package to the OSAS package will be handled internally. Our desire is to source a company or possibly a qualified individual who can install and support the SUSE while working with our OSAS dealer in making sure all aspects of the installation of the OSAS on SUSE come together smoothly . If you can provide a qualified resource, please contact me by phone or email, listed below. Steven L. Nash Controller Wheatbelt, Inc. 11721 NW Plaza Circle Kansas City, MO 64153 Ph. 816.243.8222 Fx. 816.243.8236 steven(a)wheatbeltinc.com

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RE: KCLUG subdivisions
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 02 Nov '06

02 Nov '06

There have been times when Chris Bier and Mike streamed audio of the meeting. >-----Original Message----- >From: On Behalf Of Jeremy Fowler >Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 9:07 AM > >Would be nice if someone setup a webcam and did a virtual meeting too. >Or had the meeting taped for local access TV. For those people >who can't make the meetings. >

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