KCLUG June 2009

17 participants
14 discussions

I installed Linux on my pumpkin
by Brian Kelsay 18 Nov '09

18 Nov '09

As a fun project I decided to promote Linux on Halloween. About 30 minutes with the dremel and a pattern from the web. http://www.pumpkinlady.com/tuxpattern.htm

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Installfest tonight: I'm installing the hacked firmware for my G1 Android phone
by Chris Bier 17 Jun '09

17 Jun '09

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I'm going to try installing the hacked firmware on my G1 Android (Linux, Google) cell phone tonight. - -- I digitally sign my emails. Unsigned emails may not be sent by me. If you see an attachment with .asc, then that means your email client doesn't support PGP digital signatures. http://www.gnupg.org/documentation/faqs.en.html#q1.1 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAko4ER8ACgkQE5xXU3JS1mR4OwCfU3+rTuSgHuUPdTk3neQ3wS+5 eRYAnin1jlK3lZaggv0CygpXgBz3h03c =cFPo -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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All-in-one's and Linux?
by Matthew Copple 15 Jun '09

15 Jun '09

I'm getting ready to buy another desktop machine, and really like the look of the All-in-one PCs (the iMac clones) such as the Dell XPS One. Does anyone have any experience with these machines and Linux? -- Matthew G. Copple mcopple(a)kcopensource.org

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Re: "How do you deal with difficult people?"
by Julie 10 Jun '09

10 Jun '09

Christopher said, >I think the correct response is something along the lines of you will empathize with the customer, commiserate with their upset, and then provide solutions to their problem. Diverting their attention to something else in the store just tells the customer, "I don't care about your issue, but look, here's a bunny!"< I can't agree with you more, Christopher. Empathizing and commiserating is exactly how I used to get by with taking hundreds of dollars from drunks while working as a Table Games Dealer at the two casinos I where worked [recursively] AND _kept_ them as regular customers, some of which even _followed_ me to the second casino when I 'moved'! I was told on more than one occasion by more than one person that I was one of the few Dealers, if not the only one, they had that actually treated people like people. Of *course*, in a retail situation, I would use that very same tactic and then once the person calms down, I would then go about finding a solution adding the diversion tactic as one possible solution. @ The whole group. Please accept my apologies for allowing my "signature" to go to the discussion list. I didn't really intend to spam y'all.

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Re: "How do you deal with difficult people?"
by Julie 09 Jun '09

09 Jun '09

@David Nicol ....& whomever else is interested, This is nothing new. I ran into it way back in 2003. I was applying for a retail position when I was asked how I would handle a person who came into the shop raving mad because of a negative experience with it. I answered that I'd try to calm them down by diverting their attention to something in the shop that was more positive and, therefore, give them a positive experience there to replace the negative one they had felt. I didn't get the J.O.B., I think I was "over qualified". But, several months later they went out of business, anyway. So my feelings weren't all that hurt after I saw that. LOL! Julie Freedom means you are free to be responsible ~ Russell Means 'Free to be Responsible' Speech: http://www.russellmeans.com/ ("Speeches" button > scroll down - wink) If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. ~ Chief Dan George: http://www.indigenouspeople.net/dangeorg.htm Everything the Power of the World does is done in a circle. ~ Black Elk, Oglala Lakota Holy Man: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Black_Elk

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Re: "How do you deal with difficult people?"
by Jack 09 Jun '09

09 Jun '09

Then of course there's the people who are genuinely upset about being treated like stupid, lying, cheating, stealing cattle and have had a negative experience because of some employee, who doesn't give a fig, treating them like lying, cheating, stealing cattle with money to be relieved of. This is where it becomes useful to have employees who can, off the cuff, analyze the difficult person(s) and correctly determine which category the person(s) belong in, and acting accordingly. --- On Mon, 6/8/09, Jon Pruente <jdpruente(a)gmail.com> wrote: > From: Jon Pruente <jdpruente(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: "How do you deal with difficult people?" > To: "Kclug" <kclug(a)kclug.org> > Date: Monday, June 8, 2009, 7:59 PM > If there's anything I've > learned, the customer is NOT always right. Quite often > they are lying, cheating, stealin' low-lifes that need > to be taken care of before they cause a scene. A clerk or > associate can't please everyone because some people > aren't there to get thigns set right, they are there to > take advange of the situation. > > > Jon. >

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Re:
by Sean Crago 08 Jun '09

08 Jun '09

Holloway wrote: "My former employer required interviewers to walk through an entire script of such behavioral questions even when hiring for technical positions." That's really not a bad thing when balanced properly. Seems to work okay when you kick the suits out of the room for a little bit, if you have time for multiple interviews. (Which, of course, you should: Thirty/Sixty extra minutes doesn't seem like much when compared with a TCO.... slavery's illegal...... total cost of employment of probably $40-70k/anna for an average sysadmin.) Anyone found a better way to balance it? Can testing alone cover substantive knowledge issues, when forced into a system that doesn't allow you the flexibility to do multiple interviews with multiple themes?

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Re: "How do you deal with difficult people?"
by Sean Crago 07 Jun '09

07 Jun '09

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"How do you deal with difficult people?"
by David Nicol 07 Jun '09

07 Jun '09

I've been asked this question regularly at job interviews lately and I don't recall getting asked it during prior job search efforts. Have other people been fielding the same question, or am I on some kind of HR "difficult people" watch list? (slight hyperbole) discuss.

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Router for sale
by Brian Kelsay 03 Jun '09

03 Jun '09

A friend of mine has a router he'd like to sell. It's not the kind he really needs for service at his house, so I told him I'd post it here to help him get rid of it. It is one that will take a cellular broadband card if you get your internet from Verizon or Sprint and want to have your home network linked up thru the cellular broadband. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is some info about that router I have. I'll let it go for $150 D-Link DIR-450 3G Mobile Router *Product Features:* <info(a)sebikes.com>• Plug in Your 1xEV-DO Internet PC Adapter to Share Online Access• Works Virtually Anywhere 1xEV-DO Cellular Service is Available• Create a Wireless Network - Check E-mail, Go Online, and Share Files 199.99 Retail,

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Speaking of the next meeting
by Chris Bier 02 Jun '09

02 Jun '09

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I'll bring my old Xbox and we can try modding it for the "Demo day". -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkolTlMACgkQE5xXU3JS1mTHnwCgvzPswsA6I3zXBqKYugPbYZNV IpgAn0EXnPAAOVzPJbL0Wou8WzmkXbDm =JsDa -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Speaking of the next meeting
by Philip Dorr 02 Jun '09

02 Jun '09

The library has a projector you could probably use On Jun 2, 2009 11:56 AM, "Jestin Stoffel" <jestin.stoffel(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hard mod or soft? I have an already hard-modded system (using the Xenium ICE chip) that can run Gentoo, but I think I may have lost the keyboard/mouse that I hacked for it. I also don't have a small enough TV to bring, so it would be a lame demo. On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 11:07 -0500, Chris Bier wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: S...

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person wants to know what takes place at demodays and installfests
by David Nicol 02 Jun '09

02 Jun '09

an email from from "Quincy Wofford" <quincy.wofford(a)gmail.com>, 2:55 PM (9 hours ago) Hello I am a deployment specialist for the headquarters of a medical training college based in Mission, Kansas and I am interested in participating in KCLUG. I have little experience with Linux in general. I have installed and configured Debian, Red Hat, Fedora, and I have completely failed an install of Gentoo. I can use Linux command line for simple tasks, but I want to dig into the guts of Linux and take advantage of features I simply can't get in Windows. I have ZERO knowledge of the C programming language, but I do have interest in learning how the kernel works. I would like to attend the June 3rd meeting, but unfortunately I need to work on-site during that time... Could you tell me more about KCLUG activities? I've tried looking into some audio files and gallery photos but everything seems to be unavailable at the moment. What takes place at a DemoDay vs an Installfest? I hope to hear from you soon! Thanks, Quincy Wofford (816) 797-5791

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Spice up your LUG
by Greg Mischel Smith 01 Jun '09

01 Jun '09

Found an article about spicing up your local LUG. Apparently some currently do it through beer. http://tuxradar.com/content/spice-your-lug -Greg

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